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Clifford Sydney John Payne[1]

Male 1907 - 1993  (85 years)


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  • Name Clifford Sydney John Payne  [2, 3] 
    Birth 25 Feb 1907  [3] 
    Gender Male 
    Death February 1993  Southampton, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3] 
    Person ID I12460998565  Hurst Improbable Family Tree
    Last Modified 11 Feb 2022 

    Father Sidney Stuart Payne,   b. 1883, Southampton, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother Katherine O' Dell,   b. 1888   d. 1960 (Age 72 years) 
    Family ID F4093  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Ada Leah Beaden,   b. 31 Aug 1907, Bassett, Southampton, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1 Oct 1995, Baddesley, Romsey, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 88 years) 
    Marriage 16 Aug 1931  St Matthews Church, Southampton, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2] 
    Family ID F2311  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 11 Feb 2022 

  • Sources 
    1. [S-2080810673] Ancestry, (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.), Ancestry Family Trees.

    2. [S-2081229561] Ancestry.com, England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005, (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2010.Original data - General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office. © Crown copyright. Published by permission of the Contr).
      Marriage date: Sep 1931
      Marriage place: Southampton, Hampshire
      http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=onsmarriage1984&h=54053388&ti=5538&indiv=try&gss=pt

    3. [S-2081219493] Ancestry.com, England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005, (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007.Original data - General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office. © Crown copyright. Published by permission of the Contro).
      Birth date: 25 Feb 1907
      Birth place:
      Death date: Mar 1993
      Death place: Southampton, Hampshire, England
      http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=onsdeath93&h=2388531&ti=5538&indiv=try&gss=pt


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