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Frederick James Messer

Male 1892 - 1963  (71 years)


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  1. 1.  Frederick James Messer was born on 3 March 1892 in Cowley, Hillingdon, Middlesex, England (son of Frederick Messer and Eliza Harriet Grove); died in Mar 1963 in Uxbridge, Middlesex, England.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Frederick Messer was born in 1869 in Wheatley, Thame, Oxfordshire, England (son of Robert Messer and Deborah Jane Govier); died on 13 Dec 1894 in St Margaret Hospital, St John, Paddington, London, England.

    Frederick married Eliza Harriet Grove on 22 Mar 1891 in Cowley, Middlesex, England. Eliza was born on 19 Jun 1869 in Cowley, Middlesex, England; died in 1940 in Cowley, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Eliza Harriet Grove was born on 19 Jun 1869 in Cowley, Middlesex, England; died in 1940 in Cowley, Middlesex, England.
    Children:
    1. 1. Frederick James Messer was born on 3 March 1892 in Cowley, Hillingdon, Middlesex, England; died in Mar 1963 in Uxbridge, Middlesex, England.
    2. Mary Ann Messer was born on 2 Dec 1893 in Cowley, Middlesex, England; died on 18 Feb 1986 in Hillingdon, Middlesex, England.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Robert Messer was born in 1840 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England.

    Robert married Deborah Jane Govier. Deborah (daughter of John Govier and Martha Mary Shrimpton) was born in Sep 1839 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England; died in Dec 1900 in Thame, Buckinghamshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Deborah Jane Govier was born in Sep 1839 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England (daughter of John Govier and Martha Mary Shrimpton); died in Dec 1900 in Thame, Buckinghamshire, England.
    Children:
    1. Henry Messer was born about 1860 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England.
    2. Elizabeth Messer was born in Abt. 1864 in Shabbington, Buckinghamshire, England.
    3. Rose Messer was born in Abt. 1865 in Shabbington, Buckinghamshire, England.
    4. Annie Messer was born in Abt. 1867 in Chilworth, Oxfordshire, England.
    5. 2. Frederick Messer was born in 1869 in Wheatley, Thame, Oxfordshire, England; died on 13 Dec 1894 in St Margaret Hospital, St John, Paddington, London, England.
    6. Emma Messer was born in Abt. 1870 in Wheatley, Oxfordshire, England.
    7. Ada Fanny Messer was born in Abt. 1879 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England.


Generation: 4

  1. 10.  John Govier was born in 1812 in Oakley or Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England; died on 28 Jul 1848 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England.

    John married Martha Mary Shrimpton on 10 Oct 1836 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England. Martha was born in 1803 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England; died in 1843 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 11.  Martha Mary Shrimpton was born in 1803 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England; died in 1843 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England.
    Children:
    1. 5. Deborah Jane Govier was born in Sep 1839 in Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire, England; died in Dec 1900 in Thame, Buckinghamshire, England.


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